{"id":12281,"date":"2012-09-11T11:33:44","date_gmt":"2012-09-11T19:33:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/?p=12281"},"modified":"2014-08-20T14:30:23","modified_gmt":"2014-08-20T22:30:23","slug":"discover-multitalented-blake-mills-opening-for-fiona-apple","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/2012-09\/discover-multitalented-blake-mills-opening-for-fiona-apple\/","title":{"rendered":"Discover Multitalented Blake Mills&#8211;Opening for Fiona Apple"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1340165233BlakeMillsHiRes1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-large wp-image-12300\" title=\"1340165233BlakeMillsHiRes1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1340165233BlakeMillsHiRes1-650x433.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"635\" height=\"423\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1340165233BlakeMillsHiRes1-650x433.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1340165233BlakeMillsHiRes1-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1340165233BlakeMillsHiRes1-450x300.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 635px) 100vw, 635px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong> is a multi-talented, Venice Beach-based singer-songwriter, studio session and touring band guitarist, and producer who is making serious inroads in virtually all facets of the music industry.\u00a0 His debut album is entitled <strong>Break Mirrors<\/strong>, and it is on heavy rotation on the <strong>Lefort jukebox<\/strong>.\u00a0 The album is highly recommended for those that want to hear subtly-inventive music endowed with well-crafted, heart-rending lyrics and accomplished production.\u00a0 Mills has skills well beyond his 25 years, having begun playing guitar at the age of 10.\u00a0 Mills then forged a band (<strong>Simon Dawes<\/strong>) with <strong>Taylor Goldsmith<\/strong> (of <strong>Dawes) <\/strong>while attending Malibu High School.\u00a0 From there he began playing in studio sessions and opening for or touring with the likes of <strong>Lucinda Williams, Conor Oberst, Band of Horses, Cass McCombs<\/strong> and <strong>Dawes<\/strong>.\u00a0 He&#8217;s also become a producer for fellow musicians such as <strong>Jesca Hoop, Sara Watkins<\/strong>, <strong>Dawes<\/strong> and <strong>Haim<\/strong>, among others.\u00a0 Mills will be opening for <strong>Fiona Apple<\/strong> tomorrow night at the <strong>Santa Barbara Bowl<\/strong>, and then will be playing in Ms. Apple&#8217;s band during her set.\u00a0 Make sure to be there in case he brings <strong>Fiona<\/strong> or <strong>Jackson Browne<\/strong> out on stage to help him with a song or two.\u00a0\u00a0 Or <strong>Jackson<\/strong> might just show up to reclaim his <strong>Telecaster<\/strong> borrowed by Mills.\u00a0 We caught up with him via phone while he was on break from the <strong>Fiona Apple<\/strong> tour.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 Your career seems to really be picking up steam on all fronts, and now you\u2019re between legs of the <strong>Fiona Apple<\/strong> tour and back home for a break. Good to be home?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 Well, let\u2019s see, I finished last night at 5:30am and got home and got a little rest. So I\u2019m doing alright. Being on tour and out of town, a lot of studio work piles up so when I get home there&#8217;s not a whole lot of time off. With so much going on, it&#8217;s hard to say no, that I need to take a break and get some sleep.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 Sounds a bit like the old <strong>Warren Zevon<\/strong> adage, &#8220;I&#8217;ll sleep when I&#8217;m dead,&#8221; huh?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>: Exactly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 We&#8217;ve really enjoyed getting to know your various talents and your debut album (<strong>Break Mirrors<\/strong>), which may be getting to be past-history for you given that it was released initially in late 2010.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>: Well things have a funny way of repeating themselves, and a lot of topics on that record seem to come back around when you least suspect it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 How&#8217;s the <strong>Fiona Apple<\/strong> tour been going as an opening act and band member?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 That&#8217;s been an interesting dynamic. The dynamic of the opener is oft-times to woo or capture the audience&#8217;s attention and sometimes it&#8217;s a real steeply-uphill battle.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>: We&#8217;re amongst those that make sure to catch opening acts, and have seen the difficulties of being an opener play out, and particularly at larger venues.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>: It can be difficult. For me to try and fill up 45 minutes with material from the album, which is by its nature somewhat mellow, the odds are somewhat against it at times. Add to that the challenge of some venues that have been designed with bars inside the venue, where you&#8217;re watching people who are making drinks and people who are drinking and chatting. With that level of chatter, as the opener you may think &#8220;It&#8217;s just me,&#8221; but then the headliner steps out and gets the same treatment.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>: The <strong>Santa Barbara Bowl<\/strong> should be good venue for you and <strong>Fiona<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>: Yeah, Santa Barbara&#8217;s incredible. I&#8217;ve had the pleasure of playing at the<strong> Bowl<\/strong> a couple of times. I came through in the band I was in, <strong>Simon Dawes<\/strong> [formed in high school with <strong>Taylor Goldsmith<\/strong> of <strong>Dawes<\/strong>)], in 2006. We were straight out of high school and on tour opening for <strong>Maroon 5<\/strong>. That was interesting in itself, being somewhat prematurely hurtled into the opener spotlight and learning a lot of lessons that I&#8217;m still experiencing. But it&#8217;s a different game each time.\u00a0 Worst-case scenario you get to sharpen your methods to quell the chatter. You can try a little jab here and there to see if they&#8217;ll come around for you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>: Speaking of jabs, tell us how you came to be such a dynamic guitar player? We read that you picked up the instrument at a young age. So what was your first guitar and what drove you to play it?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>: It was a <strong>Fender Squire Stratocaster<\/strong>. I bypassed starting with acoustic and went straight to the electric because I really wanted to emulate players that I was seeing on MTV. I was profoundly obsessed with<strong> Nirvana<\/strong> at the time, along with some others of that era like <strong>Soundgarden, Hole<\/strong> and <strong>Metallica<\/strong>. The guitar was just a vehicle to try to be like my heroes at that age.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 What&#8217;s your favorite guitar on tour with you right now?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 Right now I&#8217;ve got this <strong>Fender Telecaster<\/strong> on loan from <strong>Jackson Browne<\/strong>.\u00a0 I suspect there are songs inside of his guitar. Perhaps songs that weren&#8217;t good enough for him, but they&#8217;re good enough for me!\u00a0 If they&#8217;re in there, I&#8217;m gonna find &#8217;em.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 Did you take lessons or were you self-taught, and how did you progress so well?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 I took a few lessons from the store where we bought the guitar, and asked the guy there just to teach me how to play <em><strong>Smells Like Teen Spirit<\/strong><\/em> and <em><strong>Come as You Are<\/strong><\/em>, and that was enough for me. Things took off from there. My father didn&#8217;t play, but he was a massive music fan and always surrounded by music and musicians. So one day a guitar-player friend of my father&#8217;s asked me to play at my father&#8217;s house at Topanga Beach. So I played him something from <strong>Pinkerton<\/strong>, and this guy picked out by ear and explained to me the chord changes and interworkings of the song without having a guitar in front of him. I couldn&#8217;t even tune a string without a tuner, and this guy did all of this by ear, and I just thought that was the coolest magic trick ever.\u00a0 New goals would pop up from different places like that over time.\u00a0 I just wanted to figure out how to play everything, and that&#8217;s still going on. You see or hear somebody do something mysterious on the guitar, and you think &#8220;there&#8217;s got to be an explanation for that.&#8221;\u00a0 Most often there is an explanation, but sometimes there isn&#8217;t.\u00a0 And those are the kinds of things that keep it beautiful.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 Since then have particular players influenced you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 There have been a lot of players that have influenced me.\u00a0 But at a certain point after taking the guitar seriously, I lost a lot of interest in other guitar players and started seeking out other instruments and musicians&#8211;horn players, piano players, composers, and their chords and string arrangements, and singers especially.\u00a0 So other stuff would grab me, and it was hard to appreciate other guitar players. Since then that&#8217;s fallen away, and I&#8217;ve finally been able to listen to another guitar player and think &#8220;Oh my God, that&#8217;s fantastic, and a really beautiful way of playing the instrument.&#8221;\u00a0 Some of the guys expanding the horizons of the instrument are <strong>John Scofield, Jeff Beck<\/strong> and <strong>Derek Trucks<\/strong>, and other guys who push the envelope. O thers have defined the envelope, like <strong>Ry Cooder<\/strong>, the Cuban player <strong>Manuel Govan<\/strong>, and <strong>Richie Valens<\/strong>. These guys were the ones that made the rules, not just the guys who pushed them and broke them. There&#8217;s a whole history to the instrument, and so many that have done beautiful things with it.\u00a0 I&#8217;m a little late to the party.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 But it sounds like you&#8217;re continuing to be exposed to all the right players at that party.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 Well there&#8217;s just so much. It&#8217;s not like some other areas in music where you think &#8220;the Golden Years are over.&#8221;\u00a0 We&#8217;re still conjuring the period of greatness for the instrument. We&#8217;ve had <strong>Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn<\/strong> and a lot of other people who aren&#8217;t with us any more, but the guitar is still such a young man&#8217;s thing.\u00a0 The electric guitar especially brings out new players that continue to do new things with the instrument that nobody&#8217;s ever heard before.\u00a0 And you can&#8217;t say that for every instrument.\u00a0 It&#8217;s not like there&#8217;s a new, world-class bouzouki player that everyone has posters of up on their walls. Whereas with the guitar, there are lot of people who have had and still have posters of Hendrix up on their walls.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 When did you start to get noticed and sought out for studio and tour playing?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 It was definitely a gradual thing. It&#8217;s funny, when you&#8217;re in high school and you want to start a band, play shows and be a rock star, you think that if you don&#8217;t play your cards right, the worst that can happen is you could end up a lonely, dissatisfied studio musician.\u00a0 So it was never the goal at first.\u00a0 But when I was in a band and doing a lot of touring I found that touring was not really in my blood.\u00a0 I wanted to stay home and be more grounded.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 We read somewhere that you said that you hate shows. Tell us about that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 Well, there&#8217;s a few things about shows that I hate. I love to play. Performing is fine, particularly for people who are interested in listening to it.\u00a0 But there are shows where you just seem like you&#8217;re there to provide music in the event that somebody wants to stop talking, pay attention and listen to it.\u00a0 What&#8217;s funny is it&#8217;s not like <strong>Fiona<\/strong> is not noticing [how the audience is acting during the opening act].\u00a0 She&#8217;s pretty protective of her opening acts, like we&#8217;re her babies.\u00a0 So she&#8217;ll watch and develop an opinion about an audience and give accordingly, which is a little bit of poetic justice that I can hang onto.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 You&#8217;re definitely preaching to the choir on this. We&#8217;ve shouted down quite a few people at shows in our lives.\u00a0 It seems like it&#8217;s gotten worse, but it&#8217;s never been easy. From our perspective, if you want to go to shows, then go and listen to the music. If you want to talk, then go somewhere else so that both you and the music-fans will be happier.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 It&#8217;s a strange dynamic, especially with the kind of songs and music that I write.\u00a0 One of the reasons I never went out and toured to support the album is because the songs&#8217; subjects don&#8217;t make you want to get up on a soapbox, and say &#8220;Now, pay attention to me. I want to tell you this story.&#8221; I don&#8217;t want to get in a room with people I don&#8217;t know and say &#8220;alright, here are all these things about me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 And the album&#8217;s songs are pretty autobiographical and personal.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 Yes, the album is very revealing and exposing, and the point was never to put that album up like a <strong>Bat Signal<\/strong>. It was an album that I made for selfish, therapeutic reasons, and I&#8217;m satisfied with just having made it.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t necessarily need to go out and perform it.\u00a0 But if people want to hear it, then absolutely I&#8217;m not going to shut it away and be a hermit about it.\u00a0 But if you&#8217;re going to be an opener for a big artist, that artist&#8217;s fan base is not prepared for it.\u00a0 And I can sympathize.\u00a0\u00a0 So I try to present the songs in an appropriate manner.\u00a0 The album was recorded two years ago and the songs have evolved. After going out on tour and opening solo with <strong>Lucinda [Williams]<\/strong>, I sort of boiled the album&#8217;s songs down to the core so they were easier to digest and a little more straight-forward.\u00a0 But then when you try to take that to <strong>Fiona Apple&#8217;s<\/strong> audience, and they&#8217;re used to hearing music that&#8217;s more sophisticated, you have to figure out a way to make the songs enjoyable for them.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll just keep experimenting. It&#8217;s good for me to get in front of an audience so I can glean something new from it.\u00a0 Sometimes you just go up and play a couple of really slow, mellow songs to see if they&#8217;re going to bite, and sometimes they do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 Will anyone else be joining you on stage?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 The other members of Fiona&#8217;s band do come out, including <strong>Sebastian [Steinberg]<\/strong> on bass and <strong>Amy [Wood]<\/strong> on drums. We had <strong>Zack Rae<\/strong> on keys on the last leg, and on this leg we&#8217;ve got <strong>Patrick Warren<\/strong>. They&#8217;re all musicians that I&#8217;ve played with for a little while, and they&#8217;ll come out and join. I just have them come out for as much as they want to, and it&#8217;s really great. It really helps fill out the sound and stage, and make it more fun. They&#8217;re all unbelievable musicians. If the audience isn&#8217;t listening, at least we&#8217;ve got each other [laughs].<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 As an example of what you&#8217;re talking about, we saw the <strong>Out of Town Films<\/strong> video of you and <strong>Sebastian<\/strong> on bass on <strong><em>Hey Lover<\/em><\/strong> off the album, and that was great to see [check it out immediately below].<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Blake Mills &quot;Hey Lover&quot; \/ Out Of Town Films\" width=\"635\" height=\"357\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/k3ptHTS2gBY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 <strong>Sebastian<\/strong> is phenomenal.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 Getting back to your career trajectory, you went from <strong>Simon Dawes<\/strong> to studio session work and to touring and to production.\u00a0 Has that been a natural progression or have particular people been instrumental in pushing your career forward?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 There have definitely been people who have looked out for me, shown me how things have been done by others, and people who have turned me on to music I haven&#8217;t heard, all of which influences what you want to do. And then I decided that the best way to experience and appease all these styles that I enjoy is to play sessions.\u00a0 And then I got called in to do something in the studio, and you have no control over what that&#8217;s going to be.\u00a0 At the beginning you sort of take whatever you can get, and you go in and try to figure out a way to play this little Middle Eastern lick that you&#8217;ve heard and fallen in love with on somebody&#8217;s folk record.\u00a0 That&#8217;s obviously a different practice and experience than songwriting and being in a band.\u00a0 So in that sense it&#8217;s been a natural progression.\u00a0 As far as particular people who have been instrumental in my career, I met [stalwart producer] <strong>Tony Berg<\/strong> when I was in <strong>Simon Dawes<\/strong>, and he produced our record.\u00a0 That relationship has been very, very fruitful and very inspiring.\u00a0 Tony&#8217;s been a mentor in many ways and encouraged me as a songwriter, as a session guitar player and as a producer.\u00a0 And my manager <strong>Jordan [Tappis]<\/strong>, who was the head of Simon Dawes&#8217; record label, and others have encouraged me to do whatever I want, whether a record, session playing, or producing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 So with <strong>Tony Berg<\/strong> as an influence and with your production work on <strong>Jesca Hoop&#8217;s<\/strong>, <strong>Sara Watkin&#8217;s<\/strong> and others&#8217; records, how much importance do you place on producing as compared to songwriting or guitar-playing?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 It&#8217;s hard to quantify how much because the reason I got into production in the first place was people heard my album and liked the sound on the album and how I&#8217;d recorded the drums or the guitar, all of which I learned starting with <strong>Simon Dawes<\/strong> and writing and recording with them.\u00a0 So production was always part of the process, even when it was something I wasn&#8217;t being hired to do. But it&#8217;s fun for me.\u00a0 Somebody can tell me that they&#8217;ve got a song and don&#8217;t know what to do with it, and I&#8217;ll hear it and tell them &#8220;here are some different ways you can play the song. You can strip it down or even remove the guitars here, or you can add a guitar solo here.&#8221;\u00a0 It&#8217;s just fun to offer options to somebody who is lost and try to help them produce their song.\u00a0 More than anything it&#8217;s deciphering the magic tricks, helping to articulate a sound and helping them to achieve a sound.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 So along these lines, we watched y0ur<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ifc.com\/fix\/2012\/06\/exclusive-premiere-blake-mills\"><strong> IFC video<\/strong><\/a> and heard several musicians in the video intimate how strong-willed you are with respect to music.\u00a0 Out of curiosity, does the following lyric from <strong><em>Hey Lover<\/em><\/strong> relate to this issue: &#8220;Sometimes I hate trying to be so bold, but nothing else seems to get the story told&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 [Laughs] I suppose it can speak to that thing in me that&#8217;s direct and straightforward.\u00a0 I kind of orbit between being a person who has a really strong opinion about something and somebody who is really open-minded.\u00a0 The funny thing about that IFC film is that after it came out, people who appeared in the film called to apologize and say how unfair that segment had been given everything else they had said about me.\u00a0 I told them I understood and not to worry about it.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s been a long road for me to become more agreeable, and a growing experience to do sessions and production where it&#8217;s not just about you and your artistic statement. Instead it&#8217;s about somebody else&#8211;the songwriter your working with, the band that you&#8217;re playing with on the record.\u00a0 You&#8217;re pleasing someone else, and that forces you to be more open-minded and put your ego aside.\u00a0 That&#8217;s been a good thing for me to learn in doing this other work, that it&#8217;s someone else&#8217;s statement and you&#8217;re just trying to figure out how to help them articulate it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 Getting back to your own &#8220;statements&#8221; and <strong>Break Mirrors<\/strong>, were those songs written over a long or short period of time?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 They were written at different times.\u00a0 Some of the songs I had had for a little while before recording them, and some were pretty new at the time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 Are you continuing to write songs and will there be another album?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 I&#8217;d love to make another album.\u00a0 There are definitely more songs and more happening in my life that will yield songs.\u00a0 It&#8217;s somewhat a matter of when to pull the trigger, where you say &#8220;OK, this is a good batch, we can make something out of these.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 And what percentage of your songwriting is &#8220;spontaneous inspiration&#8221; versus painstaking attention to crafting a song?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>: The music is always spontaneous, and the lyric is always a craft. The music is the language I&#8217;m more fluent in than the lyrics.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a little more mysterious how to pull lyrics and grab those phrases.\u00a0 That&#8217;s a more mysterious process to me.\u00a0 I work with people all the time who are naturals at lyric-writing so I know what that looks like.\u00a0 That&#8217;s not how I&#8217;m wired, but I have an appreciation for it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 If it&#8217;s any consolation, we can tell that you actually craft your lyrics and don&#8217;t just &#8220;copy-paste a Google search and send it to myself&#8221; as you described on <strong><em>Hey Lover<\/em><\/strong>.\u00a0 On the music front, with a couple of well-done exceptions on the album, you seem to share with the <strong>Dawes<\/strong> guys the gift of tasteful restraint as opposed to showy histrionics.\u00a0 Is this a conscious philosophy of yours?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 There was the era of being impressed by music rather than being moved by it, but my favorite experience has always been carthasis and being emotionally moved by a song, rather than being impressed by a musical performance. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m after and what does it for me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 And does that philosophy carry over to the stage or do you stretch out a little more?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 Yes, on stage you&#8217;re not trying to impress somebody, but you can stretch out a little bit.\u00a0 You&#8217;re inspired to go for something new because it&#8217;s a performance.\u00a0 Sometimes you&#8217;re trying different things to capture the audience&#8217;s attention as an opener, and that&#8217;s the route you take.\u00a0 But I never enjoy it.\u00a0 I feel as if they&#8217;re responding to guitar acrobatics and you&#8217;re just a little entertainer. And that&#8217;s not really what I&#8217;m good at.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 That&#8217;s the unfortunate thing since you have a reputation as a skilled guitar-player and with that comes the expectation that you&#8217;re going to strut some stuff I suppose.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 I guess so, but what they don&#8217;t know is that my favorite stuff isn&#8217;t what&#8217;s most impressive, but what&#8217;s sentimental.\u00a0 That&#8217;s the kind of playing I try to go after, and I&#8217;m getting closer and closer to that as time goes on.\u00a0 And that may impress somebody, but it may bore somebody else.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 There are some very well-done and very affecting songs on <strong>Break Mirrors<\/strong>, so you&#8217;re really making inroads and your mark on that front.\u00a0 <em><strong>The History of My Life<\/strong><\/em> and the Elliot-Smith-ish <em><strong>Hiroshima<\/strong><\/em> immediately come to mind as very personal, very great songs [Check them both out immediately below].<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>History of My Life<\/strong><\/em>:<\/p>\n[audio:https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/09-History-Of-My-Life.mp3|titles=09 History Of My Life]\n<p><em><strong>Hiroshima<\/strong><\/em>:<\/p>\n[audio:https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/04-Hiroshima.mp3|titles=04 Hiroshima]\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 We have to ask, was somebody in particular the genesis for the lyric and sentiment in <em><strong>Hiroshima<\/strong><\/em>?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 [Laughs] No, not really. That song&#8217;s lines just came from the ominous realization that any good time is a good time before a bad time.\u00a0\u00a0 That there&#8217;s a constant calm before a storm.\u00a0 That&#8217;s just how things are propelled. And vice-versa.\u00a0 As bad as things seem right now, you&#8217;re actually in the hey day of life before another cataclysm.\u00a0 The song came out of that realization.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 Given your participation (with <strong>Billy Gibbons <\/strong>from<strong> ZZ Top<\/strong>) in the <strong>Fleetwood Mac<\/strong> tribute album, we can&#8217;t help mentioning that great <strong>Fleetwood Mac<\/strong> allusion in your song <em><strong>Wintersong<\/strong><\/em> [check it out at 1:58 and after below].\u00a0 <strong>Jesca Hoop<\/strong> does a great <strong>Stevie Nicks<\/strong> on that call-and-response section.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Wintersong<\/strong><\/em>:<\/p>\n[audio:https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/05-Wintersong.mp3|titles=05 Wintersong]\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 That was a conscious tribute. Yes,<strong> Jesca<\/strong> can fulfill many roles. She&#8217;s been out on tour with <strong>Peter Gabriel<\/strong> and did all the <strong>Kate Bush parts<\/strong> for him.\u00a0 She&#8217;s incredible and kind of made that song (<em><strong>Wintersong<\/strong><\/em>). The song existed as just the front half for a long time, and it just didn&#8217;t feel like a complete statement. So the outro came shortly before we recorded it.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a fun song to sing if you have someone to sing it with you.\u00a0 Maybe I&#8217;ll work something up with <strong>Fiona<\/strong> and see if she wants to tackle it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 A few musical moments that we particularly like on <strong>Break Mirrors<\/strong> are the out-of-the-blue wailing-with-strings segment on <em><strong>Like It&#8217;s Something New<\/strong><\/em> and the raucous closing-instrumental segment of <em><strong>Under the Underground<\/strong><\/em>.\u00a0 Are those examples of the producer in you taking over matters more?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 Yes, or just the more idealistic, more adventurous person who gravitated to other instruments than the guitar and\u00a0 who tries to make the guitar sound like a bunch of different instruments.\u00a0 When you&#8217;re making a record and you have options at your disposal, that&#8217;s the time to try different things.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 With all of your different talents (guitar-playing, songwriting, singing, producing), how do you see your career going forward, and what&#8217;s the ultimate goal?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 This is the goal.\u00a0 Just to keep all of the plates spinning.\u00a0 I&#8217;m doing exactly what I want to be doing.\u00a0 And so if I&#8217;m ready to make a record, I&#8217;ll make a record.\u00a0 If I can go on tour, then I&#8217;ll go on tour.\u00a0 It&#8217;s just a trick to figure out how to keep all the irons in the fire.\u00a0 It can be exhausting, but it&#8217;s a lovely way to kill a day.\u00a0 I&#8217;m getting to fly really close to the sun and get away with it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>: It seems like in that process you&#8217;ve been involved with phenomenal people (<strong>Conor Oberst, David Rawlings, Jackson Browne<\/strong>, etc.) and all the dots are coming together nicely for you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>: Yes, I&#8217;ve admired all the people you mentioned, and I&#8217;m amazed by it all.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>: \u00a0 As noted, you&#8217;ve played with and for a great many artists\/producers, but is there someone you covet playing with that you haven&#8217;t?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0\u00a0 I would love to play with<strong> Tom Waits<\/strong> one day.\u00a0 Between those two guys, <strong>Jackson Browne<\/strong> and <strong>Tom Waits<\/strong>, that&#8217;s enough for the next 40 years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 How&#8217;d you get everyone to show up at the <strong>Mollusk Surf Shop<\/strong> (in Venice Beach) [check out a sample below]?<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Take It Easy - Blake Mills, Dawes, Jackson Browne (Live)\" width=\"635\" height=\"357\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/QW7U08z6DB4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>: It&#8217;s just a good time. It&#8217;s a great time for people to play without feeling like they&#8217;re performing.\u00a0 It first came about when there were a bunch of guitar players in town, and we were looking for a place to go and play after-hours.\u00a0 And we just thought of that shop, post-closing.\u00a0 We started leaving the door unlocked, and people would just wander in to hear music and call their buddies.\u00a0 I never advertised the shows, and the news just spread through the back channels.\u00a0 The beauty is you don&#8217;t worry if people are going to show up, you don&#8217;t worry about how many CDs you sold, and people don&#8217;t talk because they feel like they&#8217;re in somebody else&#8217;s environment.\u00a0 They&#8217;re there to be impressed and enjoy it.\u00a0 It&#8217;s right off the boardwalk so all sorts of people walk in.\u00a0 It&#8217;s fascinating that people will be walking by and you can see them think, &#8220;That sounds like <strong>Jackson Browne<\/strong>,&#8221; and they&#8217;ll open up the door of a surf shop, and there&#8217;s <strong>Jackson Browne<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 Speaking of <strong>Jackson Browne<\/strong>, how did you get together with him?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 Through <strong>Dawes<\/strong> and <strong>Benmont Tench<\/strong>, and the <strong>Largo crew<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 <strong>Browne<\/strong> has had a large presence and history in <strong>Santa Barbara, <\/strong>at the<strong> Santa Barbara Bowl <\/strong>and on the<strong> Central<\/strong> <strong>Coast<\/strong>, as a musician and activist.\u00a0 Do you expect him at the Bowl?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Blake Mills<\/strong>:\u00a0 We&#8217;ll see what he&#8217;s up to.\u00a0 He&#8217;s been talking about trying to catch a few of the shows.\u00a0 If he shows up in Santa Barbara, I might put him to work.\u00a0 Maybe he can be<strong> Jesca\/Stevie Nicks<\/strong> on a song.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TLR<\/strong>:\u00a0 We look forward to it.<\/p>\n<p>As a great departing shot, check out <strong>Mills<\/strong> with <strong>Taylor Goldsmith<\/strong> (<strong>Dawes<\/strong>) and <strong>Danielle Haim<\/strong> (of <strong>Haim<\/strong>) on <strong>Conan<\/strong> performing a cover of <strong>Bob Dylan&#8217;s <em>Heart of Mind<\/em><\/strong> that was included in <strong>Amnesty International&#8217;s <\/strong>recent<strong> Dylan Tribute album<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=o5qkF18srbI<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Blake Mills is a multi-talented, Venice Beach-based singer-songwriter, studio session and touring band guitarist, and producer who is making serious inroads in virtually all facets of the music industry.\u00a0 His debut album is entitled Break Mirrors, and it is on heavy rotation on the Lefort jukebox.\u00a0 The album is highly recommended for those that want [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12281","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-music"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12281","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12281"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12281\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12281"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12281"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thelefortreport.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12281"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}